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A collection of quotes about LID from all over the web.

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Lucas Gonze

Lucas writes on the decentralization mailing list, a mailing list he started and that is widely read among leading-edge developers:

Fantastic -- using URLs as the basis of identity is, as far as I can tell, the only way to do it. ... beautiful simplicity.

Fen Labalme

Fen starts a thread on LID on community mailing list and says:

Sweet looking system - slick site - extensive documentation and white paper - good demo ... Pretty cool... by first impressions, they are the first worthy "competitor" I have yet seen in this space.

Fen is one of the leading developers behind the Identity Commons digital identity project. Later in the thread, various people comment that it would be great if some sort of collaboration could be created, and we'd certainly be open to that at NetMesh.

Dave Winer

Dave Winer, one of the blogosphere's most widely read founding members (best known as inventor of RSS) mentions LID on his blog and quotes:

"A quite simple, but powerful technology that empowers individuals to keep control over and manage their digital identities."

Stephen Downes

Stephen Downes writes about LID in his OLDaily newsletter, and says,

This may end up being the year of personal identity, if the first week is any indication (and I think it is). Today's entrant is a strong contender, a system called Light-Weight IDentity (LID) that instantiates many of the criteria I have stated previously: it is light-weight, it is distributed, it is (somewhat) easy to install, and most importantly, it is in the control of individuals - there is no central directory service that acts as a weak link ...

David Weinberger

David, co-author of the "Cluetrain Manifesto" and "Small Pieces Loosely Joined", portraits LID in his blog:

LID - Lightweight identity solution? NetMesh Inc. has announced its proposed solution for the digital ID problem. Called LID (Lightweight ID), it gives the user complete control over her digital ID by putting the actual info on the user's site. It differs from the Identity Commons idea by using a simple URL as the pointer to the information, rather than a special "URN"...

But his key point was: "[new] ideas ... can be implemented by people other than us — just like new vocabularies (VCard, FOAF, ... whatever-is-hot-next-week) — which makes LID more than just an identity technology but a true platform for identity-related innovation. And at the end of the day, that's what is exciting about LID."

John Baeyens

John says on his blog::

I wish more people read about LID (Light-Weight IDentity)...

Scott Loftesness

Scott writes on his blog:

Interesting stuff and a fun synthesis of many different ideas..

Phil Windley

Phil, former CIO of the state of Utah, @Home-executive and now computer science professor, writes a detailed and extensive post on his blog about LID(tm). Among other things, he says:

LID has a few features which will appeal to many... LID lets me build business cards, not credentials

Note: He is indeed right about the "business card" analogy, but only in the version of LID that we released; a 3rd-party assertion scheme is a straight-forward extension and in the works.

Update May 2005: In response to us adding what he requested, he now says:

The latest LID spec contains a method for third part verification of assertions (see Section 4.7). I think that this closes a major hole.

Jamie Lewis

Jamie is the CEO and Research Chair of the Burton Group, an important and influential consultancy. He posts several times about LID, including this post in which he says:

LID [is] self-organizing and the antithesis of a top-down identity registry... LID gives individuals the power and responsibility to self-assert and manage identity information. But there are some important differences in all of these approaches. SxIP is based on a distributed registry and governance model. iNames is based on a third-party registry and uses XRI/XDI Uniform Resource Names (URNs) as identifiers. With InfoCards, individuals will (in theory) be able to self-assert, manage, and store identity information in Longhorn, which will (in theory) make the identity subsystem to multiple applications and services. LID allows users to self-assert identity information via a published URL on the Internet, so it's leveraging an existing name space. And as Loftness points out, LID provides a "mini Web service", allowing individuals to store identity information as static XML data at a URL. Applications and services can then use a script to query the identity URL... I like the fact that LID is a self-organizing system...

Dave Kearns

Dave peeks under the LID, as he puts it, in this post:

[LID's] major draw is that it enables personal identity management and it's based on existing identity tools (vCard) and technologies (URLs).

Shelley Powers

Shelley writes a very long and thoughtful post titled "I, URL" on personal digital identity and LID, saying among other things:

LID, on the other hand, doesn't store any data about you. In fact, it doesn't even know you exist — there is no way of tracking a LID user from some root LID site... ...I find I can't compare [Liberty and LID] implementations, because it would like trying to compare an Oraclized PeopleSoft with Wordpress. More, where LID represents a service to the user, Liberty Alliance represents a service to Alliance members — no more, no less. In other words, the two implementations are so far apart on the scale, that the scale becomes meaningless. Frankly, this is all to LID's favor, too. LID provides a great deal of functionality in a tiny little package. It supports pseudonyms (personas), secure authentication, single sign-on, and data exchange, all using standard, accessible technologies. More, it's not dependent on any single centralized authority, other than the DNS itself. But then, we're all rather dependent on this... [T]he root concepts of LID are good... I also like the extensibility of the system, and have already tried out various tiny bits of other XML documents I have. As for the use in social networks, LID already provides integration with FOAF...

Dan Lyke

Dan announces the first 3rd-party LID implementation in flutterby.com:

Flutterby is LID enabled! Yowza! Flutterby is now the first LID enabled weblog, and as soon as I check these changes in will be the first LID enabled weblog system! I'm holding off on making your Flutterby login an automatic LID identity (that sounds redundant, like "ATM machine") for a number of reasons, if it seems like a good idea I do have a bunch of the code in place. And for those of you who haven't been watching closely, LIDtm is the single sign-on and identity solution that you get to control! And I'm psyched and now want to get together with Johannes Ernst to see where we can take this!

Scott C. Lemon

Scott was one of the primary architects of Novell's now-defunct DigitalMe initiative. He blogs about LID, and says, among other nice things:

One of the areas that I really like [about] LID ... is the layers of abstraction that can be implemented... Overall, I really like what I see with LID ...

Julian Bond

Julian writes on his blog, in response to this post by Shelly Powers:

It's the first identity system I've seen that I really feel I can get behind.

Adrian Blakey

Adrian says on his blog:

Like all the best works of art, I fear that it'll be long after its inventors have died that it will be realized how truly brilliant an idea it is, and what a significant contribution it is to the well-being of society - yeah, it's that important.
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